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Washington Women’s Heritage Project records, 1900-2000 
University of Washington Libraries Special Collections 
Lavinia Alexander 
1980 
Cassette 1, Side 2 
 
 
Lavinia Alexander  00:00 
That was a good experience for the kids that go to school. Nothing but Blacks. They were the 
only Indians that went there. 
 
Winona Weber  00:12 
The only non-non-Blacks? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  00:13 
Yes. There was a lot of them. The rest were all Black. And we, oh, we used to-- 
 
Winona Weber  00:20 
Those were the days of segregation. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  00:23 
Well, it was the--well, I think this-- I don't know, before this, there were nothing going on in 
Chicago. That was 1960.  
 
Winona Weber  00:32 
Yeah. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  00:34 
So... [Inaudible] it was educational for them. You know, they went to school, learned all about 
the-- 
 
Winona Weber  00:42 
Mm! Met different people.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  00:43 
Met different people. And there was Mexicans there. Blacks, whites, they had friends, all 
different [?races?].  
 
Winona Weber  00:54 
When did you--When did you move to Chicago? 
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Lavinia Alexander  00:56 
In 1960.  
 
Winona Weber  01:00 
1960. I wasn't sure about that. I've never heard of that relocation? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  01:03 
Oh! They paid your transportation over there, and-- --after you get there, they get you an 
apartment, or if you've got a big family, they'll get you a house-- 
 
Winona Weber  01:09 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  01:13 
Uh-huh.  --or a big apartment, they pay for that. Then you get $55 a week for groceries. Until 
then that'll get send your husband, you know, for some kind of--get some kind of training-- --
sometimes it takes six months, sometimes on. Then they find him a job. But we went, and he 
already went to school here, the Spokane Trade, or something. I forgot the name of it, but he 
took mechanic there and he got a certificate, so they already had that. So then he got--he got a 
job about three days after we were there. So that was-- Then, they didn't let you go, they-- We 
kept getting the $55 a week until he got a full check.  
 
Winona Weber  01:25 
Yeah. Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  01:30 
And then they released us. But they said, if he lost his job, well we can always go back and sign 
back in, and they'll help us again. We managed to stay there four years. And it was, um... Nice. 
 
Winona Weber  02:11 
Huh! I--I got to know some Japanese people that were relocated during World War Two. You 
know, all the Japanese on the coast.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  02:23 
Mhm.  
 
Winona Weber  02:24 
A lot of Japanese moved. And then--it was all right if they could find someone, you know, in the 
Midwest to sponsor them, they could move. They could move out of those camps that they were 
in. So I guess a lot of them moved back to Colorado, you know, back to the Great Lakes and 
everything. [Chuckles.] I've never heard of that. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  02:47 
I thought this [inaudible] a good deal. A lot of them, though, did go on relocation. They went to 
California. I don't know what part of California, but, you know, if you don't handle it right, you 
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know, like if you're drinking, if the man is a--is a drinking person. Well, it never makes it. The 
first money gets from the relocation, takes it-- --and drinks it. That they'll drink and that's 
supposed to be for their food, and so... But my husband didn't drink, and I didn't, I don't drink. I 
never drank in my life. So we made it pretty good. The way we was living better over there than 
it was here.You know, not much food around here. We didn't have, um, didn't have oranges-- 
 
Winona Weber  03:16 
It goes, yeah.  Oh, really? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  03:29 
--and we couldn't have any kind of [inaudible]. We just have no money coming from no place. 
 
Winona Weber  03:36 
Hm! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  03:37 
See because I was too young when they, a lot of the Indians over there-- 
 
Winona Weber  03:41 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  03:41 
--all the Indians got 160 acres apiece, and I was born late, and so I didn't get anything. My 
husband wasn't allotted, he didn't have-- So we lived with my mother and dad. I lived with my 
mother and dad until I was 41 years old.  
 
Winona Weber  04:00 
Mhm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  04:01 
Because my youngest baby was bor--was born when I was 41, and that's was when we were in 
Chicago. That's when we moved, and she was born on [inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  04:20 
Did-did were you working when your children were young? Did you--?  
 
Lavinia Alexander  04:24 
I worked all the time. I was um, I picked apples, and I picked peaches, and I picked apricots, and 
I picked apple, and I picked raspberries and strawberries and everything. Picked, uh, potatoes 
and cucumbers-- 
 
Winona Weber  04:45 
Mhm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  04:45 
--anything to-- 
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Winona Weber  04:46 
Make some money, yeah. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  04:47 
--you know, make, you know get by food. We used to come back here all summer. We had 
[?millers?], we had a big strawberry patch, and we used to pick strawberries early morning till 
noon.  Then at--then at noon, they'd stop us, and we'd go back out about three or four. And all I 
could make is $3 a day. 
 
Winona Weber  04:58 
Uh-huh.  Boy.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  05:08 
And that's all I could make. I make some money, just enough to go to the store and get 
something for supper, and then that was it, and the next day I'd be out there driving and, oh-- 
 
Winona Weber  05:18 
Money to buy groceries, yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  05:20 
Oh, we went over to Okanagan. We went over there and picked apples there and... We was 
movin' all the time, following the fruits. 
 
Winona Weber  05:30 
Yeah. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  05:32 
And that wasn't-- 
 
Winona Weber  05:34 
Did your--did your mother take care of your children while you were doing this, or did you--? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  05:38 
My dad told me, "We're taking--" See one morning, he told me, "Get ready, get your kids ready, 
I'm moving to the Spokane." And he was athe boss. I lived with and he told me, "You might, you 
might be 40 years old," he said, "but you're still living under my roof, and I am your boss." He 
said, "As long as you're under my roof, you're still-- so I don't care if you're 18." He said,  "That 
doesn't mean anything." 
 
Winona Weber  05:56 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  06:00 
And I was already about forty years old [inaudible]. I said, "Okay." So we got a tent and got--I 
got my kids ready, I had four kids then.  
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Winona Weber  06:00 
Yeah.  Uh-huh. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  06:14 
So he took us out here, and he threw our stuff out there on the ground, and left. He didn't even 
say, "Well, I'll see you." He left us there. All summer, we stayed there, and I--we didn't even 
have any money to first start]. The next day, I was out there. My oldest boy was ten.  And they 
wouldn't allow kids to pick strawberries, so I couldn't get him out there to help. So I had to go 
out there, my husband was gone. That's when I was married to this man from [?Slidell?] He was 
down there fishing.  
 
Winona Weber  06:31 
Oh. Uh-huh.  Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  06:37 
So I was [inaudible]. Work, work, work. So I guess we kind of got out of my dad's hair, because 
[inaudible, conversation in the background got louder]. After everything was over, and we had to 
go back and spend the winter. Of course, all the money I made, we used already, you know, just 
using it for food every day.  
 
Winona Weber  07:11 
Yeah! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  07:12 
It just helped them at home so they wouldn't have to feed me and my kids. Back in [inaudible], I 
used to, then I used to go out and saw wood right on the house. We had no wood. And I would 
take the chainsaw, and my [inaudible]. Saw down all the dead tree, fill up the pickup with wood 
in the evening and bring it back home and dump them.  
 
Winona Weber  07:36 
Uh-huh [affirmative].  
 
Lavinia Alexander  07:36 
Next morning, go back out, just to get, you know, so we'd be doing something for our room and 
board for my mother and dad. We had to do something.  
 
Winona Weber  07:44 
Oh, yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  07:45 
We couldn't just live there. And I did all the cooking. I'd cook-- 
 
Winona Weber  07:47 
Mhm. 
 
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Lavinia Alexander  07:49 
--and help out around the house. Take care of--[inaudible]. Do something for our room and 
board. 
 
Winona Weber  07:58 
Yeah. You need to make a contribution.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  08:00 
Mhm. Right. I used to tell my kids that. I'd tell them, I'd say, "Now," I say [inaudible], 
"Wherever you go, get around, do something." 
 
Winona Weber  08:12 
Yeah. That's--that's what we were always told.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  08:15 
Mhm. That's right.  
 
Winona Weber  08:16 
Go to someone's house, stay there? Do something. Clean dishes. Whatever. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  08:22 
Well, that's always appreciated, no matter what it is. Always do something.  
 
Winona Weber  08:28 
Mmm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  08:28 
Because I had to earn my way, all the way. So now, I just sit here all day and my, sometimes my 
boy comes out here and says, "Whatcha doing?" and I say, "I'm sittin'." He says, "That's all you 
do is sit back and--" [They laugh.] 
 
Winona Weber  08:46 
When you were the, uh, when you worked at the school... Um, What was it, the cultural--? What-
-what did you teach--what did you teach the kids? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  08:52 
I, um, I was working under Title Four, and I was teaching, um... I was teaching. It was all I had, 
was Indian students. 
 
Winona Weber  08:59 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  09:00 
And, uh, I had about thirty Indian students that I worked at [inaudible], and I was teaching them 
Indian history, and then on Fridays, about Indian culture. That's the day I teach beading or 
something like that, I'd show them how to bead-- Or make [inaudible] or something-- We'd just 
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take one thing at a time. And like before Christmas, we--I had them all working on earrings so 
they could give their mother, you know-- 
 
Winona Weber  09:27 
Uh-huh. Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  09:36 
--earrings. And you wouldn't believe it. There was a lot of them there that signed in and looked 
white, some of the kids. And so we had to go out and visit the parents to make sure, you know, 
that they were-- 
 
Winona Weber  09:49 
Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  09:49 
--and most of them weren't even Indian. They didn't even, weren't Indian at all. But they just 
wanted to stay in my class.  
 
Winona Weber  09:54 
Yeah, 
 
Lavinia Alexander  09:55 
So, that was-- 
 
Winona Weber  09:57 
Well, my little girl, she doesn't look Indian, she's got blonde hair. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:00 
Ohh! 
 
Winona Weber  10:00 
Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:03 
So I, that's all I-- Then I-I-I, uh, did demonstrations to different schools. I went to different 
schools and demonstrated Indian food. I got all my Indian food, dried Indian food for the roots 
and [?tamas?] and moss and, um-- 
 
Winona Weber  10:18 
Mhm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:20 
Pitch gum tea and cypress berries, huckleberries, and salmon, dried salmon, and all that. And 
then I get up and I demonstrate that to the different schools. I go to Rogers and Shaw, out like 
that. [Crosstalk.] 
 
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Winona Weber  10:39 
You were--you were going to schools? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:40 
Mhm. For the Spokane school district. Then once in a while, they'll call from in the valley-- 
 
Winona Weber  10:45 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:45 
--and I go out there, too, sometimes. And I go and demonstrate Indian food and let them know 
about how the Indians survived before the white man came, and I showed them-- Because I think 
that kids should know, you know, how-- 
 
Winona Weber  10:56 
Yeah! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  10:56 
--the Indians ate before the white man came. Then I'd show them just foam berries. Did you ever 
hear about that? 
 
Winona Weber  11:05 
No, I've never--  
 
Lavinia Alexander  11:07 
They're red berries, and they usually can them. And I'd put them in little baby jars, in baby food 
jars, just enough for one. And I pour it in, um, you pour it in a bowl, and then you take an egg 
beater and start beating it, and it finally starts foaming, and it's just like, just like egg whites. 
 
Winona Weber  11:30 
Hmm! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  11:30 
Like merengue, and keep beating until it starts to fill in the bowl up, and you start from that, just 
from the juice. And then you-- They call it Indian ice cream. I guess maybe-- 
 
Winona Weber  11:40 
Sounds good.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  11:40 
--that's good some, maybe that's what the white man called it later on-- 
 
Winona Weber  11:44 
Probably. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  11:45 
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--when you just. But, um, I only know it by its Indian name. We call it [?sxusem?] in our 
language-- 
 
Winona Weber  11:52 
[?Sxusem.?] 
 
Lavinia Alexander  11:52 
--then you put a little sugar in there. Now they put sugar, but long time, I don't know what they 
used, maybe they might have used honey, or something-- 
 
Winona Weber  12:02 
Yeah, they could have used wild honey or something.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:04 
--to sweeten it. 
 
Winona Weber  12:05 
Huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:06 
And I've--I've, uh, demonstrated to the GED class in the back room. They couldn't get over it. A 
lot of Indians kids don't even--never did know about it. 
 
Winona Weber  12:14 
Yeah! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:14 
[Inaudible], they couldn't get over it. But it has kind of a bitter taste. [Conversation in the 
background gets louder as people say goodbye.] Mhm. I had a story that I'd do during-- Oh, then 
I fried bread. You know, different times I went to, um, their, um--their ed classes, or home ec 
classes at Shaw for three days, and we had brought a salmon, and I brought a piece of deer meat 
and everything.  
 
Winona Weber  12:44 
Bye-bye. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:45 
Bye. 
 
Winona Weber  12:46 
There we go. [Chuckles.] 
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:52 
[Inaudible.] 
 
Winona Weber  12:55 
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[Inaudible.] Mhm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  12:56 
And the last day we had an Indian feed, all Indian food. 
 
Winona Weber  13:04 
Oh! That sounds nice! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  13:07 
Then I showed them how to make fried bread. But I liked. Then I was busy all the time. They 
was calling me to different schools-- 
 
Winona Weber  13:19 
Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  13:19 
--and I'd go and demonstrate. And I went-- I just went once out to Idaho. They called me from 
there. 
 
Winona Weber  13:26 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  13:26 
And then I went out there, that's where I was--where I went to school.  
 
Winona Weber  13:29 
Oh, yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  13:30 
They called me there, and I went over there. They couldn't believe that, you know, all the things 
that I had to show them. They said they never hear about Indian people, you know, they--they 
never--never thought about it! [Crosstalk, laughter.] They never thought about it.  
 
Winona Weber  13:47 
Would you give talks on, you know, well, such and such time of year, we would go out and fish 
for salmon and things like that? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  13:56 
Mhm.  
 
Winona Weber  13:58 
Did you have a certain time of the year that they fished--that you--that they fished for the 
salmon? I don't--Most of ours was in the summer.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  14:08 
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Well, they fish in the spring, I think it's in, um, June or in April, when they have-- it's been so 
long, but since I've been--I lived in [inaudible], they fished for bluebacks, I think, in April and 
June.  
 
Winona Weber  14:25 
Uh-huh. That sounds right.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  14:28 
And then after that, then they fish for steelheads. That's around June, or then they're a little 
bigger. 
 
Winona Weber  14:35 
Huh! Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  14:37 
Then in the fall, then they fish for the Chinooks, they call them-- 
 
Winona Weber  14:40 
Yeah, the big kings.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  14:41 
The big ones. That's what they called them. But I was there, and I even had my hand at fishing. 
My husband was gone. And you know, when it rains, the water gets muddy, and the fish, you 
know, they can't see the nets or nothing, boy there, and my husband had a scaffold down there. 
Did you ever see those scaffolds, you know, they're out like this from the shore. 
 
Winona Weber  15:05 
Yeah. Mhm.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:05 
Then you sit on the Anne, and then you stick your pole in the water. The net is down here, you 
know. Then you put your--stick it in the water like this. Then the fish comes this way, and they 
go right into your net. You have a string that you hold on this side that you feel this pretty jerk 
thing, you know there's, then you then you start pulling-- 
 
Winona Weber  15:23 
Pulling it up.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:23 
It's a long pole. 
 
Winona Weber  15:24 
Yeah [chuckles]. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:26 
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And this is in--must have been in April or May. That's during the blueback season. That's when 
they're the tiny ones.  
 
Winona Weber  15:33 
Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:34 
And, um, he was gone, he left, and he didn't get home. And here come, well, we were fishing on 
that on this--whoever owned this island was a white lady. Her name was Mrs. Brown. 
 
Winona Weber  15:47 
Where was that? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:49 
Down around by The Dalles? 
 
Winona Weber  15:50 
The Dalles, Oregon. Yeah, I know where that is. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  15:52 
Yeah, this is right across from [?Slidell?]. That's where we were.  There's an island there. And 
my husband had a scaffold there, but he left, and he didn't get back, and she came running 
[inaudible] to him quick. "What happened to--? What happened to Norman?" And I go, "I don't 
know, he must have went into town." And she said, "Well, the fish are running this. The water is 
muddy!" And all there's all white people there that was fishing. So they all went down. They 
were just pulling the, you know, the shore, the fish are just like that.  
 
Winona Weber  15:55 
Uh-huh.  Oh, really.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  16:22 
So they had--I had two, my two boys with me. So they--one, these two men hired to kill them, 
gave them these clubs. And, you know, they had to club them on the head.  
 
Winona Weber  16:32 
Yeah. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  16:33 
And he was given them 10 cents apiece for every one they, you know, they killed there. [Winona 
laughs.] So then I went down and I said--  
 
Unknown speaker  16:42 
Well, hello. What you doing over there? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  16:46 
Um-- 
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Unknown speaker  16:46 
Really got you stuck in a corner?  
 
Lavinia Alexander  16:48 
Yes, they did.  
 
Unknown speaker  16:49 
Nobody knows where you're at. I demand the front, uh-- 
 
Winona Weber  16:53 
Hi! [Recorder shuffles.] --tape. [Recording stops, restarts.] Your husband would row? Where--
Where did you do that? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  16:53 
This is Winona. Down in [?Slidell?]. Around--across from [?Slidell?]. He went and, uh, he said, 
"Listen," he said, "I'm gonna go down there and get some sturgeon." So he made these, got these 
great big hooks, and then we put salmon for bait. Salmon put bait on each. He must have had 
about-- Well, I don't know, maybe 10 or 12 hooks. And I don't know how far apart they were, but 
maybe for you, about eight feet apart, I guess. 
 
Winona Weber  17:20 
Ah.  Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  17:36 
And then, and, and a great rope. And then he had it all coiled, you know, in the, in the boat-- 
 
Winona Weber  17:45 
Mhm. Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  17:45 
--so that, um, when it was--he was ready to let it in the water, well, it all'd go in right way, then 
he'd have to-- --you know, row the boat fast so that it'll go in a line. And he told me, and he had a 
big rock, must be about this big, tied to the end of it.  
 
Winona Weber  18:01 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  18:02 
And he told me, "Now you sit back there." Said, "And you hold this rock." And I had it right on 
the edge of the boat. He said, "Can you hold on to this rock? And when I tell you when," he said, 
"then you drop the rock, you know, into the water." And that's where this--all these hooks was 
planted. So I--so he started rowing, and after we kind of got a way out, he said, "Go ahead. Let 
the rock in." So I pushed the rock--rock in. And you know, it was so big and heavy, and it just 
went down, and the hooks you know, just went!  
 
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Winona Weber  18:34 
Yeah, they just flew out! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  18:36 
Fast, and they were just going like that. And, oh, he was so mad. He said, "You wasn't supposed 
to do that!" He said, "Now they're all on top of each other!" Said, "You're supposed to let that 
rock in slow." And I don't know how he intended me to--[crosstalk] 
 
Winona Weber  18:50 
[Laughing.] Well how were you suppposed to do that?! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  18:51 
--how I was, you know, he said, "Supposed to let in there, easy." Well, how could I? I couldn't 
even know how to pick up that rock, you know, to let it down. 
 
Winona Weber  18:57 
Uh-huh [affirmative]. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  18:58 
And I just barely got and I dropped it, and it just went down. [Winona laughs.] So then we had 
to--he went back and gathered it and fix it all up again. Then he had me rowing out there. [They 
laugh.] Then, "You gotta go faster than that!" [Winona laughs.] Oh, I was so tired. I was just 
trying to row, and but then we finally got it, then, you know, you like that night went--went 
home. Oh, we had, we had one of those cabin, rock cabins on this island. This lady had cabins 
she made out of rocks.  
 
Winona Weber  19:32 
Oh! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  19:33 
Oh, the real nice, it was so cool inside.  
 
Winona Weber  19:36 
Oh, yeah, probably [inaudible], keep the heat out.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  19:40 
Four cabins. We had one of them, anyhow, and it's nice and cool in there. Otherwise, there was 
no shade or nothing there.  
 
Winona Weber  19:47 
Oh, yeah, I know. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  19:49 
And, oh, I was just thinking about our-- 
 
Winona Weber  19:54 
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--that house. [Chuckles.] 
 
Lavinia Alexander  19:56 
No, I was thinking about our, our, uh, fish then. So finally, about two days or three days, and he 
said, "Well, let's go out and check." 
 
Winona Weber  20:08 
Yeah.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:08 
So we go out there, when we went out, then you could see that one of them was jumping. I think 
he had little red balls or something on top of each. 
 
Winona Weber  20:17 
Yeah. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:18 
One of them just kind of jumping over there. [Crosstalk.] 
 
Winona Weber  20:20 
Buoys or something.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:20 
Oh, yeah! Buoy. And he said, you said, you must have something there. Then he told me, "Now 
you go, you start pulling on it." You know, then I--[Crosstalk.] 
 
Winona Weber  20:31 
Oh, gee! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:31 
Was pulling on it. It was just heavy by the time, you know, a person was feel like it was 
something, I told him. I said, "It's going to tip the boat over." So anyhow, he finally came back 
there, and he [inaudible]. "This is pretty big." Bout from here to here.  
 
Winona Weber  20:46 
Yeah! Those things are big! 
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:47 
But you know, they're about this, but they're long. You know, sturgeons are kind of long.  
 
Winona Weber  20:51 
Yeah, they--[Crosstalk.] 
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:51 
They look like streamliners or something.  
 
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Winona Weber  20:54 
Yeah, they were long, and skinny. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  20:56 
I used to like the cheeks to them. They tasted like beef. 
 
Winona Weber  21:00 
Oh, they're good. I like--I like sturgeon. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:01 
I do, too. Well then we find a bag that--and they were giving him 60 cents a pound then, that was 
about [inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  21:09 
How much? 
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:10 
60 cents.  
 
Winona Weber  21:12 
That was--that--that's good!  
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:15 
[Inaudible.] 
 
Winona Weber  21:15 
[Inaudible] 60 cents a pound. 
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:16 
Yeah. But I wouldn't go out anymore. I didn't want to go out there anymore and throw those 
hooks down there. [Winona chuckles.] I had my share of fishing when I was down there, and I 
knew all about all those-- How to fish with the pole, and [inaudible]. Then we moved-- Oh, and 
that time. I was telling you when we were there, and I was fishing bluebacks, I find that-- I'd go 
down there, and I sat there, and, oh, they would just, you know, just to come in-- 
 
Winona Weber  21:44 
[Inaudible.] 
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:44 
--one after another. And I start pulling it up, got it up there, and I had about eight of them. 
 
Winona Weber  21:51 
Uh-huh.  
 
Lavinia Alexander  21:51 
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They had gunny sacks. They went down the gunny sack-- --and they put them in gunny sacks. 
Then the next day, then the helicopter comes out, the buyer'd come in there and buy all the-- I 
made about almost $300 in a couple of days. I [inaudible] making real [inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  21:55 
Oh! Can I officially sign up?  
 
Lavinia Alexander  22:15 
Yes, you--[Recording cuts off.] 
 